CHAFE

CHAFE: No. Someone who had been at Stanford when Lowenstein was there.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: Al Lowenstein stood for a number of things, but I think most important, he stood for a profound faith in the democratic system in America, in the belief that if you gave yourself to that system, if you believed that you could actually work inside that system, you could make a difference.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: I think that this person thought that Al Lowenstein was a scoundrel, and did not want to go on the record and say so.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: It's actually where my family -- where one part of my family comes from.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: As I understand it, Dennis Sweeney is still in a mental hospital in New York state, where he was sent after a hearing which found him mentally incompetent to stand trial, and is on a parole basis, in which he is free to be outside of the institution during the day and to have employment, but to be back there at night.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: The thesis was the history of American women in the 50 years after the suffrage movement, and the changing social and economic roles.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: Well, Al Lowenstein is someone who always was known for being disorganized, chaotic.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: No. The former president was no longer alive.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: Well, of course, some of it is written down; some of it is part of the written evidence -- the diary, letters to him.

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994

CHAFE: Steve Frasier -- terrific person, great historian, wonderful critic, very engaged human being who actually wasn't sure that he liked Al Lowenstein, wasn't sure he wanted to do a book about Al Lowenstein and -- but did sign the book up because he thought I was a good historian, etc., and then read it and said, "I'm convinced."

Never Stop Running: Allard Lowenstein and the Struggle to Save American Liberalism 1994