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For 15 years, the Poznań traditional faithful attached to pre-conciliar Mass have been praying in unity with the Archbishop of Poznań.
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The hermeneutic of discontinuity risks ending in a split between the pre-conciliar Church and the post-conciliar Church.
Jesuit: Obama is "the most effective spokesperson" for "the spirit of Vatican II" 2009
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For one, there is a rather questionable analogy by which one could easily enough confuse this "help" as suggesting that the pre-conciliar age too was an age of "slavery" and prisonry -- whether this was the intent, I know not, but it certainly was not well thought out as that would be utterly inappropriate, being entirely in a spirit of rupture.
The "Camp" Mentality in Relation to the Modern Liturgy: An Example Presents Itself 2009
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While speaking against a type of rupture which would see the Church and Magisterium frozen at its pre-conciliar state, he also continued, noting the problem of a rupture which would approach the Council as a break with what came before:
Reform in Continuity: Re-approaching the Second Vatican Council 2009
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The popular tendency is to think of the pre-conciliar period, most especially prior to the 1950's, as being entirely traditional in its stylistic expressions.
Continuity, Beauty and Dignity within the Liturgical Arts and their Development 2009
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We must recall that while all was not problematic as some today would tell the story, neither was all perfect with the celebration of the liturgy in the pre-conciliar age either; there were some real issues with the ars celebrandi as well as in general approach, which is why a Liturgical Movement came about.
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Or, if the expression “liturgy of the Church” is interpreted from the texts he cites (taken from Vicesimus quintus annus), is there not the risk of thinking that the pre-conciliar liturgy was not a “matter of the spiritual order”?
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It is not a case of two typologies of social doctrine, one pre-conciliar and one post-conciliar, differing from one another: on the contrary, there is a single teaching, consistent and at the same time ever new [20].
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There is an important point here, regardless of one's particular view on the question of the Pian liturgical books; namely, pointing out the contradiction in holding on the one hand that the pre-conciliar liturgical books were in need of some revision, but then finding it inconceivable or "outside the pale" to hold the same view with regard to the modern liturgical books -- or in other words, to propose a reform of the reform.
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In spite of the second Vatican Council being 1400 years in the future, St Fintan still had to deal with some local ecclesiastics who found him lamentably pre-conciliar.
Tuesday 17 February -- Aimless Rambling and Some Feast Days John 2009
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