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  • A use of the subjunctive case in English (I believe, but grammarians correct me if wrong) is recorded here:

    "I had been warned by a trusted nurseryman that a tree grown from seed would not produce walnuts till it were 15 years old." - or is it a case of imprecise grammar used by the speaker?

    The Countryman, a British quarterly agricultural journal, Winter, 1956, p. 744.

    September 30, 2009

  • This sounds very strange to me. I would say, "till it was 15 years old". I think someone has made a mistake.

    By the way, verbs don't have cases; they have tense and mood, among other things (Slavic verbs also have aspect). The standard term is "subjunctive mood". "Case" refers to nouns: nominative, genitive, etc.

    September 30, 2009

  • On “as if�? rolig furnished me with some very insightful insights into the use of the subjunctive mood.

    The subjunctive mood is one more thing I learned primarily thanks to The Book of the New Sun two years ago. :-)

    September 30, 2009

  • There are some UK dialects, especially rural ones, which use were instead of was, and this was much more common in 1956 than it is today (though it's still common in some places). I suspect that's what we're seeing here. Is this the editorial voice, or is this some yokel speaking?

    September 30, 2009

  • When I asked old Ronnie how he could possibly be so sure that Jasper (a Muscovy duck) was 29 years old, he said "Ee, lad, I've had 'im since 'e were egg".

    September 30, 2009

  • Who names their Muscovy duck "Jasper"? Shouldn't he be called something like "Pavel Pavlovich" or "Ivan Ivanovich" or "Donald Donaldovich"?

    September 30, 2009

  • Sasha.

    September 30, 2009

  • I'm pretty sure subjunctive mood is only in conditional statements. Or maybe that's just my Greek coming out.

    September 30, 2009

  • His mother, Daphne, 'nach. He did name one of his sons Herzogovina.

    September 30, 2009

  • I'm with yarb. I've heard it used thus.

    October 1, 2009

  • It used to be correct that way. I like it; it's archaic- and Shakespearean-sounding. :)

    October 1, 2009