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  1. idiomatic Describing behaviour that is considered to be outside the bounds of morality, good behaviour or judgement in civilised company.

GNU Webster's 1913

  1. n. outside the limits of what is allowed or proper; also, outside the limits within which one is protected.

Examples

  • “It is not surprising that Malthus was regarded as beyond the pale of decent-thinking people.”

    Simon & Schuster: The Worldly Philosophers

  • “Twenty-one years of my life have been spent in slavery -- personal slavery -- surrounded by degrading influences, such as can exist now here beyond the pale of slavery; and it will not be strange, if under such circumstances, I should betray, in what I have to say to you, a deficiency of that refinement which is seldom or ever found, except among persons that have experienced superior advantages to those which I have enjoyed.”

    My Bondage and My Freedom. Part I.--Life as a Slave. Part II.--Life as a Freeman

  • “But the two reports together seem so far beyond the pale of the possible that they serve to stupefy the father: "his heart grew numb," (pugh, "to grow cold").”

    Exposition of Genesis: Volume 1

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  • reesetee One would imagine you'd know, one way or the other. Oct 18, 2007

  • chained_bear *feels better to know she's not smoking crack* Oct 18, 2007

  • reesetee Sionnach is a font of very useful information. :-) Oct 18, 2007

  • sionnach Dublin is derived from "dubh linn" (black pool), and was indeed founded by the Vikings.

    "The Pale", which was an actual fence around the city, came later, with the Normans. Oct 18, 2007

  • reesetee Ouch. Stick-y indeed. Oct 18, 2007

  • fbharjo have you ever associated "beyond the pale" with impale. That a sticky point! Oct 18, 2007

  • reesetee And pale used here also referred to a picket in a fence, so it also means "beyond the fence"--or whatever barrier surrounded the city. Oct 18, 2007

  • chained_bear Beyond the pale (of Dublin) meant outside the area of British authority. Online Etymology says this usage is from 1547.

    I have a very vague memory of hearing once that the Vikings founded Dublin (dubh something, which means black...vague memory again...). But maybe I'm just smoking crack...? Oct 18, 2007

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