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  • Sionnach, I didn't think you meant any offense. It's just not a particularly pleasant term in my mind (Pink Flamingos or no). :-)

    July 22, 2008

  • Ha! Teachers use the term FLK. I didn't realize that other folks understood us. :)

    July 22, 2008

  • c_b: "Pink Flamingoes" defies description. Let me just say that it wasn't even the coprophagic transvestite (Divine) who was most disturbing. No, no, no. Edie the egg-lady was infinitely more troubling.

    BTW, I think the word for bastard cabbage is 'choutard'. Not that anyone asked.

    July 22, 2008

  • Not a big deal, sionnach. I figured (and apparently so did reesetee) that you didn't mean to offend anyone.

    "Unexplained Beer Injury" is one I've heard before, and love deeply. I hope you add it.

    I've never seen "Pink Flamingoes." I probably can't--knowing that I'm faint of heart!--but I like hearing about these things so I can pretend to know what I'm talking about at clever cocktail parties. Of which I attend, per annum, exactly zero.

    July 22, 2008

  • Well, dang it! There goes my attempt to argue that it's a mainstream term, and not particularly offensive. Damned by its mere association with Pink Flamingoes, one of the more disturbing films I've seen in my life. The friend I persuaded to go with me refused ever to go to the movies with me again. I understood his point.

    Thanks, John!

    July 22, 2008

  • "Turkey baster baby" comes from the John Water's classic Pink Flamingos. It's about a competition for the title "filthiest person alive," and it goes to such fantastic extremes in depicting filth that it is has to be, even 35 years later, a strong contender for Most Offensive Movie Ever. I saw it by accident when I was 15 and haven't been the same since. It's no Hairspray. I recommend it, but it's not for the faint of heart.

    Though in the movie, it wasn't the lesbians who were impregnated. It was the kidnapped teenage hitchikers; the lesbians bought the resulting babies.

    July 22, 2008

  • If it appears that I've been mocking anyone, I apologize. But I don't feel that I was. I've seen the term 'turkey baster baby' reasonably often in the gay weekly papers here in SF, used without any obvious offensive intent.

    And, yes, the incongruity of the term tickles my funny bone - why wouldn't it? So do many of the macabre terms that doctors and emergency room staff use when referring to patients (FLK - 'funny looking kid', UBI - 'unexplained beer injury' and the like). Which is probably insensitive, but I know that my sister uses these terms, and she's one of the best doctors I know.

    The Newsweek article suggests (to me, at any rate) that the term is not so far out of the mainstream to be considered offensive. I'd hope people would understand that making fun of people who have difficulty conceiving is not something I engage in, here or anywhere else.

    July 22, 2008

  • There are also women WITH male mates who conceive using artificial insemination methods.

    July 22, 2008

  • I agree with you, c_b. I don't find it very amusing either, which is why I questioned sionnach. S, it's not that I haven't heard of it; it's that I have a hard time believing this is how people think most lesbians and/or women without male mates conceive.

    July 22, 2008

  • Re: 'bastage speculatum'.

    Ugh... what a frivolous act of strung~along syllables That site was. Would that I were paid for the gibberish I spew as well.
    Well established as a concept= 'maybe, baby'. not buying the baster yet, if you get my drift.

    July 22, 2008

  • It's not an actual turkey baster. I'm not finding it all that funny to mock women, whether lesbian or hetero, who need to use medical procedures to conceive. I know it sounds peevish of me to object to what is surely meant to be a lighthearted and funny page, but I figured after a week or so it's time to speak up.

    July 22, 2008

  • Absolutely not. As far as I am aware, it is a well-established method of insemination:

    turkey baster baby

    July 22, 2008

  • Sionnach: Tell me your tongue is firmly implanted in cheek. I mean, turkey basters?

    Mercy: Fastidious indeed. :-)

    Bilby: Milkweed.

    July 21, 2008

  • Pineapple slice.

    July 13, 2008

  • I can't tell if bilby is agreeing with me or mocking me. But that's nothing new.

    July 13, 2008

  • ste <-- stage

    July 13, 2008

  • It's always been my impression that no lesbian can become inseminated (impregnated? fertilized? just what am I trying to say here?) without serious turkey baster involvement. But maybe this is urban legend.

    July 13, 2008

  • Hmm, makes sense put that way, but baste is also a temporary, messy stitch. Combine that with impregnation and I think most women would pass.

    July 13, 2008

  • waste --> wastage
    baste --> bastage

    July 13, 2008

  • I can't see lesbians having much to do with bastages. They're a tad more fastidious than that.

    Actually, now it brings to mind bastard Cabbage Patch Kids.

    July 13, 2008

  • I have to disagree that this has anything to do with cabbage. It is the word for a crucial stage in lesbian parenting.

    usage example: "A lot of bastage was needed to consummate the Crosby-Etheridge fertilization".

    July 13, 2008

  • Maybe you can make one up for him. : ) This one's pretty popular out here in California. (Maybe other parts of the US, as well.)

    July 13, 2008

  • There ought to be a French counterpart to this one ;) as I know a most deserving character whom would delight in it as though it were his own namesake, were he to hear of it!

    July 13, 2008

  • Bastard cabbage.

    July 13, 2008

  • Okay, not really. Just a bastard. Not sure where it came from, but I didn't make it up myself.

    July 13, 2008