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whichbe commented on the word zaebos
(Sumerian) Grand Count of hell said to have gentile disposition.
August 18, 2008
yarb commented on the word zaebos
Does a Grand Count of Hell outrank a Grand Duke of Hell, or vice versa?
August 18, 2008
reesetee commented on the word zaebos
Wait--a gentile disposition?
August 18, 2008
yarb commented on the word zaebos
Well, the name doesn't sound particularly Jewish to me.
August 18, 2008
chained_bear commented on the word zaebos
Counts/earls are generally ranked lower than dukes. Marquis is higher than duke—a Marquis of Hell, that would be something.
Unless, of course, everything in hell is backwards, in which case a Marquis of Hell wouldn't be all that great and the Count of Hell could kick his butt.
August 19, 2008
yarb commented on the word zaebos
Thanks, cb! What I really need is an organisation chart of Hell.
August 19, 2008
whichbe commented on the word zaebos
yarb - I'll add that to my 'to-do' list as it seems appropriate with my Demongering list.
August 19, 2008
super-logos commented on the word zaebos
Dukes are sons of the king.
Counts don't count. They are a dime a dozen.
August 19, 2008
yarb commented on the word zaebos
That may be so in the mortal realm, logos. But "duke of hell" draws 231,000 g-hits, to a mere 3,740 for "count of hell" and 5,970 for "marquis of hell".
"Archduke of hell" gets 608 g-hits, "earl of hell" 29,400.
Of course it could be that the counts of hell are so common as not to merit much of a mention - or that the PR-hungry dukes have been working on their google rankings.
August 19, 2008
super-logos commented on the word zaebos
Don't dabble with Hell or evil lest you become tainted.
August 19, 2008
whichbe commented on the word zaebos
Google done tainted the town red.
August 19, 2008
chained_bear commented on the word zaebos
Yarb, a count is generally the continental term for what the English called an earl, so those two have relatively equal ranking. They rank higher than knights or chevaliers.
Dukes are not always the sons of kings. In fact in most cases they are not, though a duke is of higher rank than count/earl. It's usually the highest rank under the monarch; there aren't a lot of hereditary marquises.
Marquis is higher yet than a duke, and there are far fewer of them (female version I think is marquise, though I always want to think of a marquess as being female). The titles tend not to be as hereditary as, say, that of an earl or duke. (Though in all honesty I'm not sure what "as hereditary as" could possibly mean legally.)
However, you'll recall that whichbe called this demon a Grand Count. That's presumably of a higher ranking than your ordinary, run-of-the-mill street count. Still, I would suspect that a Grand Count is still not higher than a duke, and then you also have Grand Dukes, Archdukes, and so forth.
Which reminds me of the Onion headline of August 1914: "Assassination of Archduke Spreads Fear at Archduke Convention."
I think the google stats could merely show the general belief that counts are of little import compared to earls (especially if you consider the Duke of Earl, a very popular song indeed) or dukes. If the Sumerian demon weren't such a gentile-dispositioned demon, perhaps he'd insist on being ranked the Grand Archduke of Hell. Though, in that case, I'd recommend he change his name, in keeping with his new station, to something considerably longer and less pronounceable. As would befit a Grand Archduke of Hell.
August 19, 2008
super-logos commented on the word zaebos
And then there are the Duke University Dukes. Sometimes the folks at Chapel Hill will refer to the athletes at Duke as those "Dookies."
August 19, 2008
chained_bear commented on the word zaebos
I thought they were the Blue Devils. No?
James Madison University has some (ironically named?) Dukes. Yet apparently, according to Google, there are far more dukes in hell than at JMU.
August 19, 2008
yarb commented on the word zaebos
And let's not forget the Dukes of Hazzard! I'd back them against any other dukes, infernal or empyreal.
August 19, 2008
super-logos commented on the word zaebos
Yes, the Blue Devils, but the dook-ies, too, when one is feeling pejorative.
August 19, 2008
chained_bear commented on the word zaebos
@ yarb: Don't forget the Daisy Dukes. They tend to rank somewhat higher even than marquises, because that's how high the hems are.
@ logos: by that token, the JMU Dukes could conceivably be the Maddies, which is far less intimidating, while any Dukes of Hell could conceivably be the Hellies... Hmm. Perhaps this could be the start of a trend of re-naming sports teams? I vote for the Pittsburgh Burgies. :)
Wait. It doesn't work for the Dukes of Hazzard. The Hazzardies just sounds goofy.
On the other hand, it certainly works very well for the Duke of Wellington.
August 19, 2008
reesetee commented on the word zaebos
And none of this takes into account the importance of Duke, my sister's dog--a gentile but fun-loving creature.
August 19, 2008