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  • n. Alternative form of widow-maker.


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  • Plenty of other uses, mostly contemporary. Synonymous with "fatally dangerous".

    wikipedia includes:

    • nickname for a left anterior descending artery stenosis
    • In forestry, any loose overhead debris such as limbs or tree tops that may fall at any time
    • The Luftwaffe nickname (in German) for the F-104 Starfighter warplane
    • The Lead Round Nose (LRN) version of .38 special ammunition
    • The B-26 medium bomber in WWII
    • The H3 Kawasaki triple motorbike
    • The Stoner Rifle SR-25K "Widowmaker" SOPMOD Carbine

    July 18, 2008

  • Yeah, I guess I equated people in dangerous occupations with "tough guys." They have to be tough, but not macho. There is a difference.

    I think people would consider lumberjack politically incorrect because the jack part could be considered sexist. I assumed P.C. types would prefer logger because it's gender-neutral. What would people consider politically incorrect about logger?

    July 24, 2007

  • Yes, I think you are right. To make a fine, but important, distinction, though: This sort of language has a different connotation when used for a drink than when used for an unchosen risk. People in dangerous occupations tend to have a healthy respect for risks of the job. That is why they avoid creating widowmakers, wear stagged pants, and do not wear wrist watches.

    Risk taking for sport or purely to demonstrate macho is gratuitous. I would reserve tough-guy culture for those sorts of things. I used to scuba dive. There is an unhealthy strand of tough-guy culture in that sport.

    As for PC, what a howler that logger should be considered more PC than lumberjack. It is a regional difference, of course. The irony is that a logger would regard the latter term as too prettied-up; effete; citified. In their own region, of course, lumberjacks would have quite a different opinion.

    July 24, 2007

  • I've heard this word a lot of times in reference to dangerous things. If I recall correctly, there's a drink called the widowmaker, and it's also the name of Pecos Bill's horse. Seems common among tough-guy cultures like the lumberjacks (I refuse to say the flavorless P.C. word logger!) and cowboys and gangsters.

    July 24, 2007

  • In loggers' jargon, a tree positioned so that it might fall on a man. I cringe to think of this.

    July 24, 2007