optative

• “Greek has a particular mood called the optative mood.”

  Archive 2008-12-14

• “Likewise *-i is absent in all other irrealis moods ie. the optative, and likely too, the subjunctive.”

  The PIE *to-participle in my subjective-objective model

• “So presumably if *h₁i-yéh₁-n̥t 'they should go' is the optative of an objective verb like *h₁y-énti 'they go', then theoretically *ḱéi-ih₁-th₂e 'you should lie down' rather than later *ḱéi-ih₁-s would have originally been the optative of *ḱéi-th₂or 'you lie down'.”

  Interesting quirks of a PIE subjective-objective model

• “However, when developing his general theory of speech acts, Austin abandoned the constative/performative distinction, the reason being that it is not so clear in what sense something is done e.g. by means of an optative utterance, expressing a wish, whereas nothing is done by means of an assertoric one.”

  Fictionaut: Him

• “First of all, the 1ps subjunctive is typically understood to simply be *(-o)-oh₂ (although Jasanoff convincingly argues for a purely "athematic"1 *-oh₂ in the earliest stage of PIE, contrasting with present indicative *-mi) and the 1ps optative is normally *-yeh₁m.”

  Lehmann's dismissal of PIE *swe

• “Thus the importance to it of the subjunctive or optative mood.”

  Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy

• “Imperative (prejective), conjunctive or optative (subjective), preterite or perfect (trajective), neutral indicative (objective) are grammatical necessities arising out of times and spaces.”

  Eugen Rosenstock-Huessy

• “Menger, Karl, 1939, "A logic of the doubtful: On optative and imperative logic," in Reports of a Mathematical Colloquium,”

  Mally's Deontic Logic

• “The language of vainglory, of indignation, pity and revengefulness, optative: but of the desire to know, there is a peculiar expression called interrogative; as, What is it, when shall it, how is it done, and why so?”

  Leviathan

• “Why on earth would endings used in present-futures be associated with the semantics of a subjunctive yet absent in the optative if both the subjunctive and optative convey future reference through the lense of potentiality and desire?”

  The headache of the Indo-European subjunctive

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