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  • This refers to Godel's Incompleteness Theorem.

    May 26, 2009

  • earworm?

    May 26, 2009

  • I believe you're looking for Wenceslas.

    May 22, 2009

  • Well you just have to define logoclasm after using it. I would say this the gulf between what one person means by a certain word and what another means.

    May 22, 2009

  • I've adopted this orphan.

    May 22, 2009

  • To Isoglossian, that Wikipedia page is terrible.

    They went to Oregon with Betty, a maid and a Catholic priest.

    They went to Oregon with Betty, a maid, and a Catholic priest.

    In the first case, Wikipedia says it is clear there are 3 people, but I'm not so sure, I could easily read this as an appositive. In the second case, there could be one person, Betty, or 3 people. I don't see how the comma effects the ambiguity at all. There are several easy ways to fix this by changing the words, but the comma does nothing.

    To Rolig, I don't understand how "bacon, lettuce, and tomato" could possibly upset the flow of written text. People rarely if ever read the commas directly as pauses in speech, they let the flow of the words come naturally to them.

    May 19, 2009

  • Several problems. First, to be "made famous", it had to exist beforehand, and I would think Mad TV made it up. Second, it would actually have to be "famous", which I don't think it is. Third, it sounds more like something you bring a girl when you pick her up for a date, instead of follows, a grape.

    May 19, 2009

  • Can you cite such an example? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

    May 17, 2009

  • Interesting, shouldn't this be the southern part?

    May 17, 2009

  • Chasing one's tail seems like a quixotic activity.

    May 17, 2009

  • Most often used to describe benefits, I would say.

    May 17, 2009

  • Well Ezzackly, you now have an enemy.

    May 17, 2009

  • I don't know much about physiognomy, but it appears not to be related, other than a generally similar meaning.

    May 17, 2009

  • SLH, if you click the links above you can get the definitions and you won't need to copy them.

    May 17, 2009

  • That limerick is to be found on the OEDILF .

    May 17, 2009

  • I can see both of them here from a different computer, same Firefox, but using Linux this time.

    May 15, 2009

  • The adult version of twitter.

    May 15, 2009

  • To become fully ensconced in twitter.

    May 15, 2009

  • Not to be confused with entweeted.

    May 15, 2009

  • I wonder if this was originally a play after codex.

    May 15, 2009

  • When the comments, words, and/or lists you're reading make you think you are in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

    May 15, 2009

  • It's like a crazy Wordie acid trip.

    May 15, 2009

  • It's pretty interesting I think, I imagine if you plot average frequency of words vs. # of wordnet definitions (which I might just do this weekend) you'll see a very low number for the most common words (determiners and prepositions), with the most polysemous words coming after that, followed by a drastic drop off of number of senses.

    May 15, 2009

  • I guess I could see how I might accidentally lead myself down the garden path and end up saying this word, but I would feel dirty about it and probably pretend I used it sarcastically.

    May 15, 2009

  • I've heard it used a number of times in an astronomical context.

    May 15, 2009

  • I'm not sure if these last few comments were some sort of hyper-post-modern neo-classical absurd off, or if I'm just really very confused.

    May 15, 2009

  • That assumes that Wordie is a waste of time, something I will never agree with.

    May 15, 2009

  • It seems like a fairly poetic way to describe a generally ugly word.

    May 15, 2009

  • I have nothing to declare but the genius of that comment.

    May 15, 2009

  • I can't see it.

    May 15, 2009

  • That's an interesting expression, not quite understandable out of context, but perfectly understood once the gambling connection comes in.

    May 15, 2009

  • You can act irrationally if you want to, but you have to act transcendentally as well.

    May 11, 2009

  • So, flaking?

    May 10, 2009

  • I don't mind this as much as using queso to refer to melted cheese, but not shredded cheese.

    May 10, 2009

  • Could it be from the similarity to formative? This seems to mean something very similar.

    May 10, 2009

  • See entry for grod.

    May 10, 2009

  • It's ok. Hang out at Wordie for a while and I'm sure you'll come up with some more.

    May 10, 2009

  • The only time I hear this word is in quotations, like Donne or King James. I think this is the main reason people don't use it. If they do use it in writing, the spellcheck must be doing it for them. I understand the rule that governs it, but am unable to make myself use it in speech. Most people I know never use it, or wouldn't know how to use it even if they did. Finally, it doesn't seem to be any loss at all to the language.

    May 10, 2009

  • I did that in college with anthropomorphic.

    May 9, 2009

  • Eh, I consider this word to be defunct.

    May 9, 2009

  • It's strange, I live in Texas and almost nobody is that crazy. It is a matter of a few batshit people who care a great deal running essentially unopposed that are screwing it up for the rest of us. Either that, or I've driven away anyone willing to argue with me so that it seems that people around me all think like I do.

    May 9, 2009

  • Bilby, how can you drop a comment like "insulted by Nobel laureates" and then not mention who?

    May 9, 2009

  • I still think that July 22 is more accurate than March 14.

    May 8, 2009

  • I would think they would double the frog's jumping ability.

    May 8, 2009

  • Most disturbing list ever.

    May 8, 2009

  • The definitions are provided by WordNet, and are only available for a subset of English. For other languages, please feel free to add a definition and/or citation.

    May 8, 2009

  • Sort of like congress can be used in English.

    May 6, 2009

  • This highly important time is coming up in the next few weeks.

    May 2, 2009

  • I probably hear this the most often as part of femme fatale.

    May 2, 2009

  • So I was at Buffalo Wild Wings, and we were playing the trivia game, which was called Lexitopia, where you had to pick the correct meaning of a word from 4 choices. This is a great game for Wordies, and I got every question correct, expect for the definition of this word. Now, of course, I will never forget it, but it irks me to this day.

    May 2, 2009

  • Is this hockey specific? It might also be used in basketball, but that would be the only other possible sport I would think.

    May 2, 2009

  • Similar to peripatetic.

    May 2, 2009

  • It doesn't seem inherently insulting, if used in a reasonable context. Obviously any word can take on insulting overtones. I find it hard to get past the sheer ugliness of this word to the actual meaning. There do exist women who once considered themselves lesbians and no longer do. There also exist women who were (self-identified or not) lesbians in college, and afterward were not. When used accurately, it is a valid term. Now, when used in the sense of "She's going through a phase", it is indeed quite insulting, as if any life choice made other than societal norms is just a passing fancy than one will grow out of.

    May 2, 2009

  • Is this used with the same connotation as slut?

    May 2, 2009

  • It's always seemed weird to me that it is part of the group NAACP. Rappers calling each other the n-word is one thing, but that and the United Negro College Fund seem very different.

    May 2, 2009

  • The appropriate term should be heisenbug.

    May 1, 2009

  • Is this a neologism? It is difficult to search given the common name.

    May 1, 2009

  • I think my cousin had this.

    May 1, 2009

  • "Dragons for feet"? Priceless.

    May 1, 2009

  • But what does it mean?!

    May 1, 2009

  • An online dictionary really gives the English equivalent as spiv, a word I'm quite certain I've only heard of from the one comment on Wordie. Apparently Croatian lexicographers are well read.

    May 1, 2009

  • It most American dialects the t in button isn't glottalized.

    April 30, 2009

  • Cool list. There are a surprising amount of these.

    April 30, 2009

  • I suppose there is some sort of cultural gap then, as I really don't understand the history leading you to this. Is it the atrocities committed against the indigenous peoples? It's a very odd construction, simultaneous admiration and contempt, and I'm interested to know how such a term develops.

    April 30, 2009

  • More or less disgusting than preggers?

    April 29, 2009

  • This is interesting, because there is a similar phenomenon of island giantism, where isolated species on islands can become big and fat because they no longer have to run to escape predators.

    April 29, 2009

  • My point was, Jacob is a much better example than generic American settlers, none of whom are my ancestors. I know have a good idea of what this term means.

    April 29, 2009

  • The Daily Show's graphic for what seemingly is the end of the World. I feel a little like the beginning of The Stand.

    The good news is that the nearest confirmed case lies within the equilateral triangle that forms my home, work, and school.

    April 28, 2009

  • Which settlers in particular? Certainly some of the early Americans did bad things, but many of them were good people trying to make a better life for themselves.

    April 28, 2009

  • That is a very strange interpretation of this definition. Typically in computers, developer refers to someone who develops computer software, which could include web sites, but is almost always referred to as a "web developer". When Steve Ballmer shouted "Developers Developers Developers", he wasn't referred to web designers.

    April 28, 2009

  • I've never heard this used as a standalone. It is almost always used for something like sysadmin.

    April 28, 2009

  • "There is today too much aestheticization of judgments. Dukakis is 'Zorba the clerk.' Bush is a preppie. But peace and prosperity are at stake. The point of politics is good government, not the display of charm. And the point of a baseball team is good baseball, not inferior play somehow redeemed by a pretty setting. Part of the Cubs' problem may be that too many Cub fans have an attitude problem. They are too devote to the wrong thing. Let there be lights"

    -- George Will, "Let There Be Lights", August 15, 1988, an essay in favor of night baseball at Wrigley field.

    April 27, 2009

  • What are you wearing under there Reesetee?

    April 27, 2009

  • What are some typical examples of people of whom this word is used to describe? Genghis Khan?

    April 27, 2009

  • I'm thinking those devices where there are a bunch of pins and you stick your hand or face to press part down and on the other side you can see the image, and then the computer recording that and sending it across the wire.

    Frankly, I'm glad they haven't gotten to more advanced intimate gestures yet. I shudder at the fate of humanity.

    April 27, 2009

  • see metaphysico-theologo-cosmolonigology

    April 27, 2009

  • I agree with dontcry. Baptism by fire is baptism done under fire, baptism of fire seems like it would put the fire out.

    April 27, 2009

  • What is cosmolonigology?

    April 27, 2009

  • Punishment generally, unless you're into sadomasochism.

    April 27, 2009

  • It sounds more like a threat that a mugger makes.

    April 26, 2009

  • This is kind of weird, because taking someone to the woodshed has quite a different connotation than this term.

    April 26, 2009

  • This seems like a forced neologism.

    April 26, 2009

  • This seems like one of those words that is pronounced oddly, but I can' tfind anything on the googles.

    April 26, 2009

  • This is interesting, does it mean that courage was once a verb?

    April 25, 2009

  • This sounds like it belongs on ambulatory excrement.

    April 25, 2009

  • Do they all have golden noses?

    April 24, 2009

  • NO! It's a trap!

    April 24, 2009

  • see puijila, which is the first time I'd ever heard this word.

    April 24, 2009

  • That almost sounds like riddle, when does a man sleep, but not dream? Of course, the answer would have to be death, which I've never really been able to fully wrap my head around. Perhaps death is just a deep sleep from which you never wake. Do other languages prefer the death/sleep metaphor?

    April 24, 2009

  • Wow chained_bear, that may be the deepest statement every made on Wordie. I'm trying to wrap my head around the implications of fantasy and reality and how people live their lives. Consider my mind blown.

    April 24, 2009

  • "Am I afraid of silence? I wouldn't ask, except I never seem to allow it. I watch tv, listen to music, radio, podcasts, if I'm with friends talk to them, and sometimes when I'm alone I talk to myself. The only time I consistently ever allow quiet is before drifting off to sleep (see dreams). Perhaps it is telling that I can accept no aural stimulus if I am deeply ingrained in reading a novel or solving a math problem. It could be that by listening to one thing while doing another prevents me from the exertion of concentrating full brain power on a given task. Have I been handicapping myself this whole time? If I put cotton balls in my ears would I be some great genius? Or am I fooling myself, am I nothing more than what I am? Does music provide a soundtrack to my life, neither improving nor harming my capabilities, just heightening my experiences?" -- excerpt from the autobiography of Seanahan

    April 23, 2009

  • There's the web, web 2.0, and web 3.0, but does anyone really know what will be next? What will 4.0, 5.0, etc. look like? I can tell you that nobody knows what Web 9.0 looks like, it will be as different from what we know as the internet today as that is from everything that came before it.

    April 23, 2009

  • In the future, what will the new Wordies think of us who were in here in the nascent days? Will John's grandchildren be writing web 9.0 plugins for this site? Will he sign an exclusivity agreement with the OED? Will the people at the OEDILF finally finish and then come stage war against us for our unlimerickal comments?

    April 23, 2009

  • If you are allergic to cats, is the cattlesnake's venom extra deadly?

    April 23, 2009

  • I suppose if anyone besides Shakespeare can make up his own words and meanings for words, it would be Nabokov.

    April 23, 2009

  • verb + systematic

    April 23, 2009

  • logos + automatic

    April 23, 2009

  • He's logomatic, he's verbomatic, why he's Reese lightning!

    April 23, 2009

  • Interesting, I imagine England was originally settled by nomads crossing that stretch of land, and remaining after the waters receded. Imagine the change in history if Britain had been settled thousands of years later.

    April 23, 2009

  • Also an album by German industrial group Rammstein.

    April 23, 2009

  • I always think of the Hugo award winning novel "This Immortal" by Roger Zelazny, although he peculiarly prefers the original title, "And Call Me Conrad".

    April 23, 2009

  • What is the vowel? Is it pronounced mersh, mresh, something like that?

    April 23, 2009

  • Does anyone know why there are so many songs about rainbows?

    April 23, 2009

  • This word is great because it can act as an idiom, or indeed as a literal term. Who doesn't periodical ponder at the marvel that is one's belly button?

    April 23, 2009

  • That is a really strange way for it to be phrased, but I guess you can't expect much out of Wikipedia. No living species or species that exists is really an ancestor of any other species. Furthermore, the chances are very small that any fossils that are found are the ancestor of a living species, you can only say that this fossil is related to what the ancestor is thought to be.

    April 21, 2009

  • It seems so inelegant to form the noun from the adjective that itself was derived from the verb. In a similar vein, my Mom always gets upset at the verb "conferencing", from "conference", from "confer", which itself could have been used in the situation.

    April 21, 2009

  • Interesting, according to Wikipedia, Dara Torres just turned 42 three days ago, so she will be 43 next year.

    April 18, 2009

  • A female Wordie who creates lots of lists.

    April 18, 2009

  • Let me interrupt, shouldn't this thread continue under ascii? You can generally encode numbers in any base, including binary, but converting those numbers to a message (information theory) requires an encoding scheme, which in this case is ascii.

    April 18, 2009

  • I'm inclined to agree with you, and I trust your instincts Qroqqa. When I analyzed this word I thought it might be a portmanteau of strategist and magician, since strategist and tactician are already so close that combining them seems redundant.

    April 18, 2009

  • see flophouse

    April 18, 2009

  • Oh no, ghost word! Does anyone else think WordNet misses the standard usage of this term? I would tend to think it always has something illicit to do with it.

    April 18, 2009

  • I agree with Bilby.

    April 16, 2009

  • A homophone of newbie, someone who is new to GNU (but really Linux). Found at the Jargon File.

    April 15, 2009

  • Spooky, I see nothing...

    April 15, 2009

  • Check out this word at the Jargon File.

    April 15, 2009

  • The Jargon File has a number of interesting synonyms for this (as expected), including the standard newbie and the interesting chainik.

    April 15, 2009

  • Used to describe an interesting class of genes.

    April 15, 2009

  • John Wayne Bobbitt would beg to disagree.

    April 14, 2009

  • Interesting, the standard pronunciation really loses the etymology of circa-dian, around a day.

    April 13, 2009

  • World Wide Words says "The classic example of the latter form was created by Dmitri Borgmann: “I do not know where family doctors acquired illegibly perplexing handwriting; nevertheless, extraordinary pharmaceutical intellectuality, counterbalancing in-decipherability, transcendentalises intercommunications’ incompre-hensibleness�?".

    April 13, 2009

  • It's one of those paradoxes you just have to live with. Say the right thing, and most people thing you're an idiot who can't pronounce words, some think you're being an erudite jackass, and a small minority of Worders will give you a tiny bit of credit. Say the wrong thing, and most people will give you zero credit, some will think you're dumbing yourself down, and the Worders will think you're an idiot.

    April 13, 2009

  • I propose we use this term to describe people who would generally like Wordie, but aren't here.

    April 13, 2009

  • Actually, my understanding of cognitive dissonance is that a person chooses their current beliefs and actions, seemingly because they consciously want to, but in their subconscious they are striving to reduce cognitive dissonance. If a person knows about the cognitive dissonance, they either change their mind, or act as if it didn't occur at all, even though it is a major factor that contributes to their decision.

    April 13, 2009

  • But what does it mean for capitalism to uncontinental?

    April 13, 2009

  • Foxy skipped right over picofortune then?

    April 11, 2009

  • This is an interesting word. I've only heard or read it a few times, and it seems to have been always describing the behavior of a women. Is that generally true, or is that a side effect of my reading habits?

    April 11, 2009

  • I wasn't really sure when I made that joke, I've only ever had one reference point. And now we've taken this page to a discussion that will make people uncomfortable.

    April 11, 2009

  • Interesting, I wonder what the connection is between this and cognitive dissonance.

    April 10, 2009

  • The proper pronunciation of this word is almost impossible for me to match up with the root, it just sounds too different.

    April 10, 2009

  • I think John must be putting something in the water.

    April 10, 2009

  • While it's true that they are used in the same way, it is worth noting that more pleasure can be derived from one than the other.

    April 10, 2009

  • And yet the doggerel tag is so underused...

    April 9, 2009

  • See this wikipedia link

    April 9, 2009

  • Really? Is this following the example of the equally annoying bridezilla?

    April 9, 2009

  • Indeed, schmuck and dick are used in the exact same way.

    April 9, 2009

  • Thanks John, I didn't know about these problems, and now you've made (ruined?) my evening. It's worth it though.

    April 8, 2009

  • According to http://www.bubbygram.com/yiddishglossary.htm it is Yiddish for a crazy person.

    April 6, 2009

  • Should it be mishuggenah?

    April 6, 2009

  • heh

    April 4, 2009

  • I prefer dunghy, which is like a dinghy, but has a larger poopdeck.

    April 4, 2009

  • v. to gay it up

    April 3, 2009

  • Does Wordie have the Buddha nature?

    April 3, 2009

  • There has to be a good pun with seraphic.

    April 3, 2009

  • Interesting, a layperson is one who is not a member of a clergy, and this word reflects that.

    April 3, 2009

  • Interesting. So is the b pronounced?

    April 3, 2009

  • Probably it is so ugly that no one is willing to take credit.

    April 3, 2009

  • Rolig, you are a great example of the Wordie spirit. Anywhere else on the internet, your last post would have stopped after the fifth word. Instead, you send me scurrying to Amazon to update my wishlist with new translations.

    April 3, 2009

  • His heard." "Exactly he very glad trouble, and by Hopkins! That it on of the who difficentralia. He rushed likely?" "Blood night that.

    April 2, 2009

  • I has them the saw the secorrow. And wintails on my my ent, thinks, fore voyager lanated the been elsed helder was of him a very free bottlemarkable

    April 2, 2009

  • I've never that usage of humanly before, but I've also never read Kierkegaard.

    March 31, 2009

  • The title of the outstanding opening track of DeVotchKa's album "A Mad and Faithful Telling".

    March 31, 2009

  • Really? I thought I'd hit that one out of the park.

    March 31, 2009

  • Some random guy named John McGrath interviewed Ammon Shea here

    March 31, 2009

  • I've been against the channel since the beginning. The name sci-fi is really just a slap in the face of the true fans who prefer to call it SF.

    March 31, 2009

  • Because I would say that at least 90% of the usages of this word are in the context of baseball. At least, if you say the word umpire to me, I immediately think baseball.

    March 30, 2009

  • What does this mean?

    March 30, 2009

  • Why consult a dictionary when we are the prime examples of it?

    March 30, 2009

  • Do you say Mount Re-doubt or Mount reh-Doubt?

    March 30, 2009

  • see also ad hominem

    March 30, 2009

  • What does this mean?

    March 30, 2009

  • As I understand it, there should be a great deal many of these, but they are almost impossible to find, since there is no light source for them to reflect.

    March 30, 2009

  • Wait, eating lettuce makes you sleepy?

    March 30, 2009

  • Is there Mrs. Queequeg?

    March 30, 2009

  • Latin term used at dry cleaners to assuage customers whose clothes aren't ready.

    March 30, 2009

  • Used in lis pendens

    March 30, 2009

  • Is this pronounced Dune-verse or Dune-i-verse? I like the latter.

    March 30, 2009

  • British for fetally, the adverbial form of fetus. The British actually write fœtus, though Wikipedia says this is deemed professionally unacceptable.

    March 30, 2009

  • I prefer gubernator.

    March 30, 2009

  • materialism?

    March 30, 2009

  • 18 listings, but not a single comment. There's some pretty interesting stuff here. Read the Wikipedia entry and discuss.

    March 30, 2009

  • Also a move by Guile.

    March 30, 2009

  • Who calls it "tongue-speaking"? I've only ever heard "speaking in tongues".

    March 30, 2009

  • I have to disagree with Chained Bear. The University of Michigan is a prominent university, and very well know in college sports. It is also the premier university in the state of Michigan. As such, residents of Michigan are Wolverines. The animal is fairly obscure, but there are a lot of people from Michigan. Now, I agree that using Wolverine in general to describe Michigan residents and not just alumni is a bit unfortunate, especially for graduates of Michigan State (the Spartans), but it is something I hear all the time.

    March 30, 2009

  • I'm sort of glad there are no chemists here to explain why that is.

    March 30, 2009

  • Is this the kind of word that is almost always used colloquially? Also, has anyone heard this in a positive context? That is, "remembering ten thousand digits of pi is humanly possible".

    March 30, 2009

  • It does seem a bit archaic. "He favors his mother" is something I've read, but I don't think I've ever heard someone say it. Usually they say "looks like" or "takes after".

    March 30, 2009

  • I always think "tomorrow and tomorrow and tomorrow".

    March 12, 2009

  • I mean, they were somewhat related, right? They all had to do with triathalons?

    March 12, 2009

  • The movie was awesome. The book was pretty good. It's been number one on Amazon for books for a couple days now, managing to surpass the dozen or so Twilight books in the top 25.

    March 12, 2009

  • I dislike the "creating money out of thin air" metaphor, it downplays the future cost of such decisions.

    March 6, 2009

  • My parents were the opposite, I was constantly corrected on my pronunciation and grammar. And here I am, on Wordie, constantly correcting people.

    March 6, 2009

  • See Wikipedia

    March 6, 2009

  • Google books to the rescue

    March 6, 2009

  • I impulse purchased this at Barnes and Nobles on Sunday, probably took about 5-6 hours to read. I suggest you read it first, but I'll know more after seeing it.

    March 6, 2009

  • Nimbed means having nimb or halo. Similar to nimbus.

    March 6, 2009

  • See ouroboros or oroboros.

    March 5, 2009

  • This word is disgusting. It makes my ears bleed.

    March 5, 2009

  • The saddest article I've ever read is this article about a Sports columnist's recently deceased dog. For those who aren't into sports, this article transcends sports writing.

    March 5, 2009

  • Sounds like a party with cocaine.

    March 5, 2009

  • I prefer to describe such a word as "perfectly cromulent", which more of my friends get, but when I use madeupical, they seem to pick up the meaning alright.

    March 5, 2009

  • Oh my god, the excitement is mounting. I just read this book for the first time over the last 3 days and I can't wait for the movie.

    March 5, 2009

  • *Cough cough* Watchmen

    March 5, 2009

  • This was a slogan of Howard Dean during the 2004 campaign.

    March 5, 2009

  • The Wikipedia link also suffices.

    March 5, 2009

  • Let's see some examples.

    March 3, 2009

  • Great review Sionnach, do you review books I might want to read?

    March 3, 2009

  • Let us know when the book is finished, we'll all buy a copy and then make lists that really don't have anything to do with the book, but have the title in the list description.

    March 2, 2009

  • That's really not such a great analogy if you think about it too much. I'm pretty sure the gravitational pull of Saturn would do some things do a bathtub full of water. The whole idea of floating doesn't make a lot of sense on this scale.

    March 2, 2009

  • Or you can click the Urban Dictionary link in the middle, next to Wikipedia.

    February 12, 2009

  • "One Million Strong for Stephen Colbert" got to the million mark, 1,194,089, to be specific.

    February 12, 2009

  • It must have been really boring if it took you a year to read.

    February 6, 2009

  • Trust Microsoft to come up with heinous neologisms.

    February 5, 2009

  • "Microsoft researchers are exploring whether using data from several members of a social group--a technique that the company calls "groupization"--can improve search results. Their initial findings, based on experiments involving around 100 participating Microsoft employees, suggest that tapping into different types of groups could produce significantly better search results." -- http://www.technologyreview.com/web/22040/page1/

    February 5, 2009

  • Stephen Colbert's name for Iceland after global warming.

    February 3, 2009

  • I just saw this yesterday at Wired.

    "The French Academy of Sciences turns down the membership application of Nobel Prize winner Marie Curie.

    A healthy dose of sexism, racism and chauvinism, all alive and well in the rarified air of the fin de siècle French scientific fraternity, conspired to deny Curie the seat, which was awarded instead to Edouard Branly."

    January 25, 2009

  • As long as you don't make a habit of posting a ton of links, I think it's appropriate. I myself am a fan of crosswords, although I'm a bit out of practice. I got a crossword a day calendar for Christmas, so I'm hoping to hone my skills.

    January 22, 2009

  • What? The coolest? The dodecahedron and icosahedron are way cooler.

    January 19, 2009

  • soutanes in not a word I would have known.

    January 18, 2009

  • Typically, yes. I can't think of any single syllable slang for bourgeois.

    January 18, 2009

  • A debate tactic used by Duane Gish in support of creationism. His rapid fire statements are silly and disjoint, but by the time you've refuted one of them, he's shot out a dozen more. Since it's easier to make up false claims than to disprove them, he always stays ahead, and by the end of the debate, he gets more points with the audience because his opponent only refuted a fraction of his claims.

    January 18, 2009

  • Howard Carter decrypted Tutankhamun?

    January 18, 2009

  • If you have a word which is generally overtagged, but this word isn't tagged with overtagged, then it is undertagged, but once one tags it with undertagged, then it is mistagged.

    But what if the word overtagged itself is missing the tag metatag, telling us it describes tags, and not words? Then overtagged is undertagged, leading us to tag it undertagged, but then if someone adds metatag, it is itself overtagged with undertagged and thus mistagged.

    January 14, 2009

  • This word is a fraud.

    January 14, 2009

  • A tag which should be used in a lot more places than it is.

    January 12, 2009

  • What does it mean to "fight recessions rather than give in to them"? Do most businesses really just give up and pack it in during a recession? Doesn't everybody want to survive and hopefully thrive?

    January 12, 2009

  • That deserves note more for the crazy sentence structure if nothing else.

    January 12, 2009

  • It certain areas of the South, the word pretty is pronounced purty, and this is a verb described a woman putting on make-up. "Before she went to the dance she purtid herself up".

    January 12, 2009

  • Used in the 1954 classic How to Lie With Statistics, a short, well written, and still relevant book about how people used statistics to mislead.

    January 12, 2009

  • See also statisticulate

    January 12, 2009

  • Or possibly aptitude.

    January 12, 2009

  • That spelling is pretty odd. I would tend to say the word was first used by someone else, as the date of first attestation isn't necessarily the first usage.

    January 12, 2009

  • See also vaporware.

    January 7, 2009

  • There is this book about how English is really based on Biblical Hebrew starting in the garden of Eden, The Word: The Dictionary That Reveals The Hebrew Source of English (Paperback). It might interest some of us here. As far as I can tell without having read it, it is complete crap.

    January 7, 2009

  • Thanks be to Google Books.

    January 2, 2009

  • The Mormon Church keeps extensive records on births and deaths. I have no ancestors in the church, but my family used some of their records to research our genealogy. It seems reasonable the LDS on those records refers to group that kept track of them.

    January 2, 2009

  • Not able to get into your dorm room because your roommate is having sex.

    January 2, 2009

  • The classic is the dorm word sexiled.

    January 2, 2009

  • Ok, that's what it means now.

    January 2, 2009

  • Many a fun evening in college.

    January 2, 2009

  • See kernel panic.

    January 2, 2009

  • I joked last week about wanting to see the new movie "Metonymy New York", but none of my friends got it.

    January 2, 2009

  • A much better word than gutty, or the phrase "goes with his gut".

    January 2, 2009

  • Looking up the etymologies, village is French and town is English, which is about what I expected here.

    January 2, 2009

  • Seems to be an archaic term for cosmology.

    January 2, 2009

  • I've been off the grid for a while. I spent a lot of time doing Word of the Year, List of the Year, etc. last year, but there was a lot of negative reaction to the whole idea of it, which is why I didn't involve myself in it this year. I still think it's a great idea in general, so thanks to Whichbe for making it happen.

    January 2, 2009

  • Sort of like speakings in tongues?

    December 28, 2008

  • That pronunciation leads me to believe there are two syllables in this word, and I've only ever used one.

    December 15, 2008

  • See also language maven.

    December 15, 2008

  • An interesting Yiddish word often used in baseball and growing in poker. This blog post summarizes a word detective page nicely http://biloklok.blogspot.com/2005/11/schneid.html

    December 1, 2008

  • That's a hilarious article, informative, and lots of database schema, great stuff.

    November 27, 2008

  • Dragon blood?

    November 24, 2008

  • Thanks Bilby, I've always wanted to know that.

    November 18, 2008

  • I am Bender, please insert girder.

    November 18, 2008

  • See 42 for an extended discussion.

    November 18, 2008

  • "I haven't had as much as a square of cracker all day", the parrot said polynomially.

    November 14, 2008

  • The spelling of this word looks really funny.

    November 13, 2008

  • When the Republicans rewrite history during the campaign, history is right justified, and similarly when rewritten by Democrats it is left justified.

    November 13, 2008

  • A funny usage here on Cracked.

    November 13, 2008

  • I've heard hypermiling several times, starting in December 2007.

    November 12, 2008

  • I agree, this is cool.

    November 11, 2008

  • mensch

    November 11, 2008

  • Someone known for witticisms, e.g., Oscar Wilde or Yogi Berra. I suppose that wit is the appropriate term, but this sounds kind of cool.

    November 10, 2008

  • Oscar Wilde, noted witticist, I presume?

    November 10, 2008

  • See RPM hell.

    November 10, 2008

  • see rpm hell or dll hell

    November 10, 2008

  • Also, face blindness or prosopagnosia.

    November 10, 2008

  • See Dependency Hell. This is when you tried to install something (Red hat linux Package Manager) using an RPM, and then it turned out you needed another RPM as a prerequisite. After downloading that, it turned out it needed another RPM. And so on. Modern versions of Linux use fairly sophisticated package management system to deal with this so the user doesn't have to.

    While there is a certain romanticism to digging into the guts of the system and doing all the work yourself that goes (went?) with Linux, I think everyone will agree that RPM Hell is something that nobody feels nostalgic about.

    November 10, 2008

  • Reminds me of rpm hell.

    November 10, 2008

  • Err, I didn't really have any meaning in mind. See sevener.

    November 10, 2008

  • See also sixxer.

    November 6, 2008

  • Often referred to as UU.

    November 6, 2008

  • It's actually frightening the similarities between the West Wing and the current election.

    November 6, 2008

  • I guess I didn't look at the list title, cryptolect seems like a reasonable term.

    November 3, 2008

  • That's awful.

    November 3, 2008

  • I really enjoy the parenthetical after "Buckland kept a bear named Tiglath Pileser". Almost as if the comment was responding to the name, not the actual bear keeping.

    November 3, 2008

  • I can only hope this is where the name of the sugar packets comes from.

    November 3, 2008

  • I'm really enjoying the poetry citations Bilby, keep them coming.

    November 3, 2008

  • I don't really think Pig Latin is the appropriate term. Is there a linguistic term for this kind of language alteration?

    November 3, 2008

  • Can you explain this for me?

    November 3, 2008

  • We're just two lost souls.

    November 3, 2008

  • wtf + wtmi

    November 3, 2008

  • I merged this with wtf to create wtfmi.

    November 3, 2008

  • calumny

    November 3, 2008

  • Good breakdown Mollusque.

    November 3, 2008

  • This is a ridiculous word. Just because we can make up a word like this, doesn't mean we need to. Plus, the meaning isn't clear from the pun, so it is basically useless.

    November 3, 2008

  • I just looked up the etymology of this, after years of idly wondering (away from a computer or dictionary) about the connection between the adjective and the physical process. It turns out that the word is from the Latin for "uplifted" or "elevated". Matter being sublimated goes directly from a solid to a gas, causing it to go from the ground to the air. A sublime performance could thus be a performance which uplifts the audience, or simply a performance at an elevated level. Compare this with the honorific "High-ness".

    November 2, 2008

  • Found this interesting video on this word http://www.hotforwords.com/2008/10/09/forte-pronunciation/. Also uses nounized.

    October 29, 2008

  • Also used in Canada.

    October 29, 2008

  • This is a fabulous word. 5 s's, 4 e's, 13 letters, 5 distinct, and three syllables.

    October 28, 2008

  • It does now. Let's have it be a friendship between a Jew and a Gentile.

    October 27, 2008

  • This is a fabulous word.

    October 27, 2008

  • See also phi.

    October 27, 2008

  • Clearly, in an "ass-kicking contest", the object is to kick your opponent in the buttocks. If you only have one leg, it is very difficult to kick someone, which seems where the expression comes in.

    Now, the one-armed juggler idiom doesn't really make sense, because you can juggle with one hand. I can do two regular sized juggling balls one hand, which while not impressive in any fashion, confused me as to the usefulness of the expression. Obviously there are talented jugglers like Jason Quick who can perform very complicated juggling maneuvers with one handed.

    Still, there must be hundreds of expressions like this, someone should collect them all.

    October 27, 2008

  • You stole my comment Effigy.

    October 24, 2008

  • A poker term described here, essentially a portmanteau of donkey and tournament, describing a poker tournament consisting of bad players (donkeys).

    October 20, 2008

  • see comment on educanto.

    October 20, 2008

  • This book was written in 1973, and language has certainly changed quite a bit in the last 30 years. I don't think teachers are being replaced by educators, and I don't remember many teachers who consistently used large words. Of course, it could just be I heard those words and knew what they meant, when an averagely lexiconed student could not.

    October 20, 2008

  • "In schools today, the educators (Latin-derived) hold sway over the ordinary teachers (Anglo-Saxon). Educators speak a Latinate language, incomprehensible to parents and children alike, which is disparagingly referred to by those within the profession as "Pedaguese" or "Educanto." -- Peter Farb, Word Play

    October 20, 2008

  • Artificially inflating your comment count, Gangerh?

    October 20, 2008

  • It was just fear of the number 13

    October 18, 2008

  • Great minds think alike, eh?

    October 16, 2008

  • from a recent conversation of mine with a bot...

    Seanahan: Hi. What's up?

    Bot: October.

    Seanahan: You are the computer.

    Bot: No, you are.

    Seanahan: Oh no I'm not!

    Bot: Bald obfuscation. I expected better.

    Seanahan: I'm leaving.

    Bot: Shall I open the door?

    Seanahan: It's midnight... And it's so dark...

    Bot: If it wasn't dark it probably wouldn't be midnight.

    Seanahan: You are not a real person.

    October 15, 2008

  • See Wikipedia.

    October 15, 2008

  • GOTO CONSIDERED HARMFUL

    October 15, 2008

  • I cannot rest from travel: I will drink

    Life to the lees: all times I have enjoyed

    Greatly, have suffered greatly, both with those

    That loved me, and alone; on shore, and when

    Through scudding drifts the rainy Hyades

    Vexed the dim sea: I am become a name;

    October 15, 2008

  • Portmandiculous.

    October 15, 2008

  • Interesting, this is from the Arabic, Al Ghul, meaning, "The Ghoul", probably due to the varying brightness.

    October 15, 2008

  • And only 2 have problems.

    October 13, 2008

  • Perfect!

    October 13, 2008

  • Although, the terms come together at coffee bars.

    October 13, 2008

  • In fact, the first I'd ever heard of Sarah Palin was a column about possible VP candidates saying that Troopergate counted against her.

    October 13, 2008

  • It is also US slang for ATM.

    October 13, 2008

  • It would be much cooler if you could legitimately spell it syzygystyc.

    October 13, 2008

  • Apparently I'm the first one to use this feature chained_bear, because no one else has posted after you.

    October 13, 2008

  • A poker player who ekes out a living playing low stakes games, without taking the high risks associated with higher risk (but higher expectation) games. Knish in Rounders, for one.

    October 13, 2008

  • Shouldn't it be "The way you take to get to Tipperary"?

    October 13, 2008

  • Shouldn't that be swaglady?

    October 13, 2008

  • Is this different than Wordie mobile?

    October 1, 2008

  • As used in wainwright.

    September 30, 2008

  • Someone who lives in New Orleans?

    September 28, 2008

  • Also the name of a pair of islands near one of favorite places on earth.

    September 28, 2008

  • I lived there for a couple years, and it is indeed quite level.

    September 27, 2008

  • Should it not be "Get the 'fuck' off the Wordie top 100"?

    September 27, 2008

  • I also love that Jennarennifer had a lot of different ways to shorten it.

    September 26, 2008

  • Don't confuse this with golden ratio.

    September 26, 2008

  • What is this used for? It seems quite useless.

    September 26, 2008

  • That totally sounds badass though. Motorbiking through the jungles in a foreign country, fighting off packs of wild dogs and tigers, sucking venom out of snake bites, all for zero pay.

    September 26, 2008

  • This is a fabulous word. If you pronounce it in French, you miss just about half the letters.

    September 23, 2008

  • I tend to think of WordNet 5 and 6 when this word comes up.

    September 23, 2008

  • A mesa has a clifflike side. Otherwise, the only difference is mesa is Spanish and butte is French.

    September 23, 2008

  • one half

    Edit: on reread, a trick non-trick question. For the seventh child to be a lobison, both the sixth and seventh child have to be male, so Yarb was right.

    September 22, 2008

  • Hope is a good thing.

    September 21, 2008

  • Not quite a verb, but I imagine it will be in the next few years.

    See also the XKCD.

    September 21, 2008

  • Looks to be an obsolete version of weasand.

    September 21, 2008

  • I prefer to use oriented.

    September 19, 2008

  • See also vagina dentata.

    September 19, 2008

  • Lead Belly is one of the most fascinating yet poorly known figures in American music.

    September 16, 2008

  • In space, the natural position for astronauts to sleep is flat on there backs with there arms extended straight out. Obviously this wouldn't work in normal gravity.

    September 15, 2008

  • I meant I've only ever heard the adjective form, pithy. I never actually refer to the whitish bits inside of an orange, I suppose I might have heard them called pith before, but I meant pith used in the 4th WordNet definition above.

    September 15, 2008

  • I always catch the clock, it's 11:11.

    September 12, 2008

  • This seems to be Latin in contrast to the Greek ephemeral.

    September 12, 2008

  • In American, an "Oh Shit Moment".

    September 12, 2008

  • This is American slang as well, or at least instantly recognizable to Americans, although it probably isn't used as much anymore.

    September 12, 2008

  • That is a truly odd sentence.

    September 12, 2008

  • Of course...

    September 12, 2008

  • You say pettitoe, I say pettotoe.

    September 12, 2008

  • see nubile for the usage.

    September 12, 2008

  • I've never heard the noun form of this word.

    September 12, 2008

  • Old Gimlet Eye.

    September 11, 2008

  • Such a good album.

    September 11, 2008

  • You're making that up.

    September 11, 2008

  • At least She understands me.

    September 10, 2008

  • I need somebody.

    September 8, 2008

  • It is almost always referred to as hex by computer scientists.

    September 6, 2008

  • Scary stuff.

    September 1, 2008

  • Great post qroqqa, I hadn't thought about it, but this is indeed a very interesting word. Both the cases you list which you consider counterexamples seem to me to have an implicit "to be" in them, "rumored to be completely furnished" and "rumored to be dead". In fact, it doesn't sound wholly grammatical to me if I hear rumored outside of "to be".

    August 29, 2008

  • Buffalo Wild Wings

    August 29, 2008

  • Actually, Taco Bell has a hotter sauce than hot, known as fire. It still isn't up to wild sauce at BW3s, but it is a considerable improvement.

    August 29, 2008

  • I thought it referred to a gorgeous parking lot attendant who caused men to drive around the lot over and over again just to look at her.

    August 29, 2008

  • It sounds enticing, I also wish to play it. Now all we have to do is find the rules.

    August 29, 2008

  • Steven Pinker has written extensively on swearing, and I'll point out a couple of the important parts. There are specific parts of the brain which produce language, and those parts are not necessarily responsible for swearing, which is more keyed into the parts of the brain which use emotion. So, calling someone a racial slur is typically an intellectual act, while saying a four letter word is an emotional one. Of course, one can use emotional words in an intellectual fashion to make a point, which is just good writing, using words which have meanings that can reach an audience.

    August 27, 2008

  • We can't just put our fingers in our ears, cover our eyes, and hope that the words we don't like go away. By talking about words we are able to analyze them, to understand what about a word gives it power. By shining light upon the darkness we can deprive it of that which scares us, we can dismantle the power it holds over us and we can move forward.

    The simple act of talking about swear words or insults takes away a lot of their power. And of course, there are people who would take away niggardly and even black hole. The free exchange of words and ideas is a necessary thing.

    August 27, 2008

  • The term squeeze is still used in poker today to describe slowly looking at a hole card. From this there is a variety of other metaphorical usages which have arose.

    August 27, 2008

  • No hard feelings all around, it was intended as irony, but obviously it is an offensive term, so apologies.

    August 27, 2008

  • Particularly since it sounds like the opposite of delapidated, which is a negative word. Unfortunately, the two words are roughly opposites, the one being stones falling apart and the other being stones coming together.

    August 26, 2008

  • I actually don't really care for comments on profiles. A good percentage are referring to (but not linking) random conversations around Wordie, leading to terrible fragmentation. My profile, for example, is a complete hodge podge of comments, most of which are indecipherable to even me, not that I mind too much, but some of the profiles that have a lot of comments kind of get out of hand.

    Perhaps having that part of the profile on a separate page would alleviate this.

    August 26, 2008

  • I'm not really sure what a non-existent kind of God is.

    August 26, 2008

  • I've never figured out how to pronounce this, so I checked the guide and it says di-meen, and that it is essentially the same word as domain.

    August 26, 2008

  • A lot of vitriol on Wordie these past couple of days, and honestly, I'm a bit shocked. Words are not fundamental units, they are what we make of them. They have the power that we assign to them. The point of this word was to lampoon the use of gay and retarded to mean stupid, annoying, pointless, frustrating, etc. Taking two words in an ironic context and making a third which is not even a word to mean some sort of combination of the two perverted meanings.

    The point of this word, of the use of words like this, is to force people to think about things that they either they haven't or don't want to think about. So I guess it's worked in part, because it has gotten some serious responses, but it mostly failed because people seemed to go crazy.

    Finally, there is no reason for four people to call me insulting, homophobic, horrible, stupid, unimaginative, insulting, cruel, dimwitted, ignorant, juvenile, petty, pea-brained, lame, evil, selfish, power-hungry tyrant, willfully ignorant, self-righteous obscurantist, awful, casual hating, and a sniggering idiot.

    I believe that humor is a powerful force. It is uniquely human, lifting us in good times and sustaining us through the bad. Humor provides intellectual stimulation and relief from stress. Wordplay is a very important type of humor for many of us on Wordie, although surprisingly large numbers of us don't really seem to get the jokes.

    If a post strikes you as unamusing or even offensive, there is no reason to attack the poster. Maybe you misunderstood what was going on, maybe the poster meant something different, perhaps some historical If you truly feel the need to say something, a polite comment such as "This seems somewhat offensive to me. Are you sure you want to phrase it like that?" This will go a lot further than ad hominem attacks.

    August 26, 2008

  • And the United Negro College Fund is a respected organization.

    August 26, 2008

  • Apparently an Ethiopian sky god.

    August 22, 2008

  • Bilby, when examining the Wordnet page for South, we determine that the U.S. sense of South, that being the southern part of the country, has the highest frequency count. This is due to the frequency found in tagged texts, which simply means that word came up the most often.

    The two you dislike, which don't occur in the WordNet entry linked above, make some sense, "a demarcated area of the Earth" is for when "south" is used to refer to the Southern Hemisphere. Similarly, "a point or extent in space" makes sense geometrically, we can talk about the southern part of a shape in several dimensions. Without more information from WordNet, I can't narrow it down further.

    Finally, WordNet is not a dictionary, it is a "lexical database".

    August 22, 2008

  • I've actually studied what would be called ergodic systems, although that term wasn't use very often.

    August 22, 2008

  • The improv group I was in for a while in college used this as an enunciation exercise.

    August 21, 2008

  • Or my favorite form of the Irish 7 course meal, a bottle of whiskey and 6 baked potatoes.

    August 21, 2008

  • In my understanding, the original meaning of the word was to set, as in the sun, just as Orient comes from to rise, as in the sun. The sun rises in the east (orient) and sets in the west (Occident). Turkey was known as the Orient (by Romans) and as Anatolia (by Greeks, the word coming from the Greek for east). Eventually, it moved further east, until it reached china.

    August 21, 2008

  • Did you read an article yesterday about overfitting? It's enough to make a person trained in statistics cry.

    August 21, 2008

  • I don't know, most of the WordNet defs tend to make a lot of sense. The southeast and southwest ones are kind of confusing, but the rest seem valid.

    August 21, 2008

  • Lousy Smarch weather.

    August 21, 2008

  • Sometimes I think Reesetee uses ironic just to annoy me.

    Anyway, irenic is from Greek, and ire is from Latin, so the two words have no connection in meaning.

    Whenever I see this word can't help but think of the Rambaldi message relate to it.

    August 21, 2008

  • You forgot about potatoes.

    August 21, 2008

  • Remember, i.e. means "in other words" and e.g. means "for example".

    August 21, 2008

  • See camisole or chemise.

    August 20, 2008

  • You know Skipvia, the planet is pronounced yur-in-iss, not your-anus?

    August 20, 2008

  • I like adding balon and cesta to get baloncesto.

    August 20, 2008

  • Is there a difference between a flail and what is called a chain mace?

    August 19, 2008

  • "*58% of Wordies have read 3 books in the past two weeks.

    *42% of Wordies skipped their college graduation ceremony to read a book.

    *80% of Wordie families have spent more than $500 on books in the last year.

    *70% of Wordies have not been in a bookstore in the last five days."

    -(source me)

    August 19, 2008

  • First, I have to say I have two Erdos autobiographies in my library right now. Second, I have to say that I am considered by most who have eaten with me to be a connoisseur of bacon and bacon paraphernalia.

    August 15, 2008

  • I added my old citations from Kavalier and Clay to this list, although I'm sure there are many more words that I could have cited in that book.

    August 14, 2008

  • The Erdos number is the length of path between two vertices in a graph, where a vertex represents a person, and an edge represents having written a scientific paper (typically math or physics) with the other person. See the Wikipedia page for more info.

    August 14, 2008

  • See also axlotl.

    August 13, 2008

  • A logical fallacy, coined by C. S. Lewis.

    * You claim that A is true.

    * Because of B, you personally desire that A should be true.

    * Therefore, A is false.

    August 12, 2008

  • That is interesting. I mean, most everyone agrees that there should be speed limits, but most everyone breaks them! The USA was built upon the principle of "majority rule, minority rights", but if a majority of voters continue to elect people to put laws into place or revoke laws, and those in power replace the supreme court, eventually that voting block could change the laws to anything they wanted. In several countries, the Muslim majority attempted to vote in an Islamic dictator and disband the democracy. If this is the wish of the people, would it not be undemocratic to go against it?

    August 12, 2008

  • See this page for more info. Essentially, it is people attempting to pronounce foreign words in the most foreign sounding way possible.

    August 12, 2008

  • There is also something call hyper-foreignization, although I don't know that it is at all in play here.

    August 12, 2008

  • Kafka? Who's Kafka? TELL ME!

    August 12, 2008

  • This word seems odd and ridiculous, but I haven't decided whether I like it.

    August 12, 2008

  • Actually, that feature has been in Wordie since the very beginning, it's just been hidden.

    August 12, 2008

  • That is freaking awesome, because it makes so much sense.

    August 11, 2008

  • I'm pretty sure Jesus is an Italianization (Latinization really) of the original name.

    August 11, 2008

  • So which is it, extremely or exceptionally?

    August 11, 2008

  • Really Bilby, was linking to Mitt Romney's hair really necessary? You've created an orphan.

    August 4, 2008

  • I can't even begin to guess how to pronounce this.

    August 4, 2008

  • "If I can't exclude those disjunctions, I'll die trying", Tom said inexorably.

    August 3, 2008

  • I'm happy that the "Old Guard" wordies as Bilby called them were the ones to correctly place me on that word.

    August 3, 2008

  • And the basis for the worst board game ever made.

    August 2, 2008

  • It's clever anyways.

    August 2, 2008

  • asativum chainsaw

    bilby psychasthenic

    chained_bear sunflower

    darqueau mojo

    dontcry hunky-dory

    frogapplause cred-herring

    gangerh wabe

    john quixotic

    oroboros cavalier

    palooka clinchpoop

    plethora pluripotent

    prolagus groovin'

    pterodactyl zoetrope

    rolig stripper

    seanahan bladder

    sionnach esemplastic

    skipvia bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronntuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk

    whichbe gravlax

    yarb ingenue

    August 2, 2008

  • Interesting, knowing subliminal, but not this.

    August 1, 2008

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